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Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2014.05.05 06:43:00 -
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You're the worst PVE theorycrafter I have ever seen. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:12:00 -
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Paikis wrote:This is entirely unnecessary. 1 Archons, 1 Revelation, 2+ of any other Dread, 1 Loki. Throw everything into the site straight up, blow it up, warp in your second carrier when there are 8 Sleepless Guardians left and get out of there in 1 siege cycle.
Anything else is just complicating the matter.
First Dread absolutely must be a Revelation, first Carrier absolutely must be an Archon, boosts absolutely must be had.
wow somebody actually knows how to run sites on these forums. I dunno about this ~rev~ stuff but ok. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:07:00 -
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Paikis wrote:Jack Miton wrote:PS: if you're using rev as first dread, i got some bad news for you son...
Do tell!
You just don't need it m8.
I used to do tri-escalations with 2 moros, 1 archon 2 lokis. Just warped in everything at the same time and blasted through the site in 5 minutes. NBD.
Stopped doing that quick though because multiboxing all that stuff is the worst. I like to stick to ezmode double escalations now personally. 0 effort, I literally just play hearthstone while I do them.
Also Keith, I'll try to get around one day to doing a quad escalation in 5 minutes with 3 or less dreads and fraps it. No promises though because ~effort~ and i cba to carebear if i don't have to. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 04:49:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:
I know ALOT about sleepers, I know you can warp to 0 on the spawns, and blap alot of the battleships before they get in web range. I know you can literally start the site with no tank on and swap when you take aggro. I know about bait boats and TP boats exactly how many tracking computers and sebos is overkill.
What I don't understand is how 5 dreads with T2 siege, plenty of sebos and no tank, can't manage to do a site in one cycle (with a loki) but you claim to do it with 3 dreads with **** skills. There is clearly a MASSIVE trick I have yet to learn about sleepers.
You play with **** players? Also I wasn't joking when I said you were the worst PVE theorycrafting..., you sound like you don't know jack.
Look, even if you just look at theory, we know that each sleepless guardian has 255,000 ehp, and each of your moroses will be doing about 16000dps, and you have 3, that means that you do 48,000 dps in the site. (honestly it's more like 51,000 since a proper fit moros has very close to 17,000dps, but we'll err on the side of caution here.)
28 sleepless guardians have a combined ehp of 7,140,000 ehp. You can get through this much ehp with 48,000dps in 148.75 seconds. That's 2.5 minutes. Obviously that doesn't happen, because you have to factor in lock time and lag time between weapon shots, and some over-shooting of targets even with unstacked guns, but it doesn't take more than 2.5 minutes of extra time there.
Edit: I also hope you realize you need more than one loki for 3+ dreads if you actually want to apply your dps in full capacity. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 05:05:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:
grats on buying a calculator. now go buy a dictionary and look up 'applied DPS'.
Kieth, just ignore him.
Read my edits.
Also pray tell me why you think dreads can't be doing their full dps to sleepless guardians? Especially if you warp to 0 on the cap escalation waves, two lokis is completely sufficient to ensure that your dreads do full dps constantly (one loki for the primary, one for the secondary).
I don't know what you're on about. Ignoring the facts is pretty bad even if you don't like what you have to hear. I'm so sorry that I'm helping you make more money in eve, lol. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.07 00:51:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:if youre warping to zero in a magnetar with 3+ dreads you don't even need lokis tbh.
Except what I was talking about was in a no-effect wormhole, and second, you're a complete joke. First you say that my argument is invalid because "applied damage", and then you come here and talk about how lokis aren't needed in a tracking nerfed wormhole.
Lol? You're a ******* joke.
I definitely will make a video in the future since apparently CCP feels like nothing except farming should be viable in w-space. Whoopee. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of that in the future since that's the only thing left for me to do in w-space. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.07 20:23:00 -
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Yea you need to make sure you web the secondary, and that you have mad TP's.
Stacking TP's on a target is totally fine, since the TP bloom is based on the current sig of the target, meaning that even with diminishing returns, the second (and I believe the 3rd) TP application still give a greater absolute sig increase than the first.
Should also use the info link for ewar strength, gives your TP's even more of a boost, it's pretty good. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 03:18:00 -
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Adoris Nolen wrote:Phoenix buffs incoming.
Is this what you believe?
If so, let me be the first to inform you that the changes, are, in fact, nerfs. |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:31:00 -
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Ahost Gceo wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:I expected drama, but not pve bullshiit. Get back on topic. Shall we evaluate the possibility of dropping Phoenixes on ratting fleets in lieu of Nags then? From what I am reading/hearing Citadel Torps will now actually be usable, but to what degree I am wondering. What will be the differences in damage application? I don't do a bunch of theorycrafting, but I would have to poke at Nags still being superior vs. subcaps even after the torp buffs.
They won't be usable. The only thing the pheonix has going for it is that you can warp it into the site at 50 km and basically take no damage from their dreads (and you have extra shield resists as well). But this is overshadowed by the fact that it literally will not do full damage to a nag that has skirmish links even if the nag is sitting still.
Not to mention that if they bring subcaps and you don't have a huge subcap support fleet of your own, you're boned because your pheonix will never do appreciable damage to the subcaps, without a full missile exp radius fit (which you need rigs for, and im p sure you don't want to be going into dread fights with 3 rigors fit instead of 3 semiconductors). |
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